Thirty Minute Mentors Podcast Transcript: #1 NYT Bestselling Author Jay Shetty

I recently interviewed Jay Shetty on my podcast, Thirty Minute Mentors. Here is a transcript of our interview:

Adam: Our guest today is a number a New York Times bestselling author, and is a leading voice on mental health. Jay Shetty is one of the world's most viral content creators and is the author of the bestseller Think Like a Monk. Jay, thank you for joining us.

Jay: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so grateful to be here.

Adam: I'm grateful that you're here with me and with our audience. Jay, you're a college student taking business classes and a guest speaker comes in and you find this speaker, especially inspiring and interesting. And in this case, it wasn't any regular business speaker, but it was a monk. And it was an encounter that changed your life. Can you take listeners back to that moment, and how it took you down the path that led you to become Jay Shetty, influencer to millions?

Jay: So I remember that moment very, very well. It's because I used to love hearing people's rags to riches stories when I was young. I was not fascinated by the end result of the riches so much, but the journey and progress and the stress that they took on and the pressure and the challenges and how people broke through. I loved human stories of resilience. I love reading autobiographies and biographies about people I never got to meet but hear about how they dealt with some of life's most difficult tribulations. And I would go whenever speakers were invited, this was before podcasts existed, you couldn't just go and listen to a podcast with interesting and curious and new people or people you hadn't heard of. And so I would go to events at my college or go to events in the city. I was born and raised in London. And I would usually go and hear entrepreneurs, athletes, celebrities, CEOs, people of the sort speaking. And once I was invited, as you rightly said, to hear a monk speak, and my honest skepticism and cynicism was like, well, what can I learn from a monk, what's the point of going to this? And I negotiated with my friends that I would only go if they promised we could go to a bar afterwards. That was my level of consciousness and my state of being at the time and they agreed, they were very persuasive. So I walked into this event, truly not expecting to gain anything. I thought we'd be there and probably leave early, it doesn't matter. And it's incredible. And it's incredibly humbling when you go somewhere expecting nothing but you walk out truly having found something you didn't even know you were looking for. And the monk was speaking about how the greatest thing and the greatest experience in the world is using your skills, talents, and gifts in the service of others. And this was something I'd never heard before, I'd heard people talk about how to raise money, or how to get funding, or how to make your idea and your dream come into reality. But never heard someone talk about serving others and improving the lives of others through the gifts we've been given. And this really, really took hold in my heart. And I, later on, found out that this monk had given up jobs and successful company options and offerings to be a monk. He went to IIT, which is the Indian Institute of Technology, he was a high performer. So he hadn't become a monk because he didn't have any other options. He'd become a monk because that was his choice. And I started to just want to be more curious about that. And now when I look back, I realized the thing that hit me was when I was 18. I've met people who are rich and met people who are famous and met people who are successful. I've met people who are beautiful and attractive, but I don't think I've met anyone who is truly happy. And he radiated happiness. And I still know him today. And he's still the same today. He's incredible. He still has the same energy today. And I just wanted to spend time with him. It was that feeling of I want to shadow this person, I want to be around this person. I just want to get to know them. And so I started spending all my summer vacations, Christmas vacations, and holidays- I started spending them all, living with him in India. And then when I graduated, I decided to go off and live as a monk in India. And when you asked how that corresponds to what I do today- I wouldn't say that when I took any of those steps I was ever aware of where they were leading. But I'd say that it's given me the, you know, anything I'm sharing is not mine. It's from the books of wisdom that I studied with the monks. Anything that I've learned any practices and habits I've developed, have been because of the philosophy and the, the exercise in habits to introduce me to and I'd say that who I am today, and what I get to do is because I got to have an incredible experience and still do still connected very closely with the monks, that I get to share and pass on to the world.

Adam: I love that. And I especially love just how impactful the power of mentorship has been in your journey. And in your case, you weren't expecting such an influential mentor, to be a person speaking to your business school, who's a monk, but in your case, this individual completely transformed your life, completely transformed your mindset, completely transformed your career. And the message that he shared with you, which is the message that you share with audiences that you speak to really aligns with something that I try to share when I speak to audiences that I speak to. I try to tell people when you're trying to figure out what you want to do with your life- number one, find something that you love. Number two, find something that you're really good at. And number three, find something that allows you to make a positive impact in the lives of others. And if you can find something that allows you to do all three of those things, it doesn't feel like work because you love it so much. It doesn't matter what time you start, what time you end, you're continually energized, you're continually charged.

Jay: Yeah, I couldn't agree more with you. I fully agree with everything you just said. And I think often people struggle to know what they love, or they struggle to know what they even like sometimes because we've all been trained to do things we don't like for so long, whether it was school or college or, you know, whether it was parenting or whatever it may have been, I think all of us have got very used to doing things we don't love and like and think that that's normal. But often I think you can find what you love or like or are passionate about by starting with curiosity. And I often think that if the purpose is the adult, passion is the teenager, interest is the child, and then curiosity is the womb — like it all starts with just curiosity. And so if anyone's listening to us, and they're like, well, I don't really know what I love or what I'm passionate about, then start with just something you're interested in and curious about. There was a time when I was just curious about social media, I didn't know it would be a big part of my career. There was a time when I was curious about wisdom from the East and Eastern philosophy. I didn't know it would be my career, it would be my life. And so you don't have to know where something's going to get involved and invested in it.

Adam: And we're going to talk about the topics that you touched on. You mentioned wisdom around social media. How did you become Jay Shetty, the brand? What are your best tips on the topics of branding and personal branding?

Jay: That's a great question. And I love sharing this because I think it's as important as the work that I share from a more spiritual consciousness-based advice. So I worked at a company called Accenture. And I worked my way in the company to become the number one social media person at Accenture across 500,000 people globally. And so I was working with executives on developing their personal brands, guiding them in the use of LinkedIn and Twitter, which were the main corporate platforms that we worked with. I was developing content and training material inside the organization for how this can be done. At the same time, the company knew I loved meditation and mindfulness. And I would travel and teach social media and meditation at every event I went to. I would be working with people on mindfulness programs inside the company as well. And so it was almost as if I was getting experience in developing both my passions and loves and things I was interested in. And I got to a point in 2016, the end of 2015, beginning of 2016, where I realized I had to try and put both together, I realized that my purpose was to try and see if I could share the messages that were so resonated with my colleagues, so resonating with my directors and people around me around mindfulness and meditation. And I was thinking, what if we could get this out to everyone in the world? What if we could make the conversations around mental health and well-being mainstream? What if these could be the videos that were most talked about and shared about? Because I saw the challenges firsthand that people in the company were going through, whether it was stress or burnout, and luckily Accenture was really at the forefront of leading that wave. They were very committed to helping people who were experiencing any of that burnout or stress or pressure. And so I got to be a part of that. And I decided at the end of 2015, beginning of 2016, that I wanted to try and share these messages that had moved my life that I had shared with others in corporate scenarios in colleges and universities, and it changed their life. And I wanted to take an opportunity to try and share that. So I remember my friend who has a video company where he mainly films weddings and corporate events in London, he came out with me one day, we went down to the City of London, and scribbled down a few scripts. I had a few ideas in my head. And we freestyled some videos, we found a nice location, which we had no plan of where we were going, we would just walk around the city and see where we thought the background looked nice. And you know, he would set up his camera, we didn't even have a microphone or anything like that. We didn't have any lighting, we didn't have any other help. And we went out for about four hours. We recorded about four pieces of content. And I started uploading them on YouTube. I taught myself how to edit. So I would spend 9 pm to 2 am, every night, after finishing my day job, I would learn how to edit videos. And every week I would release a video. I believe my first day I would release a video was on a Sunday. And I thought that Sunday would be a good day because so many people would have Sunday blues and not want to go to work on Monday. And so if I could help people feel inspired and motivated and uplifted on a Sunday, then that would hopefully help them throughout the week. And so I started creating these videos. And the first one I think did about 5,000 views in 24 hours, which I was absolutely chuffed about and so happy about. And I kept creating them. And after a month I had about 1,000 subscribers on YouTube, which to my friends and the people around me sounded like a waste of time. And also, you know, a lot of effort. And 1,000 was not seen as a big number. But I was over the moon. I was getting to do what I love. There were people that were responding. And more importantly than the numbers or anything, people who did watch the videos were just sharing such beautiful, amazing conversations with me and opening up in the comments section. And I was just starting to really get to share. And I was so fortunate because within about three months, the global HR leader of Accenture named Ellen Shirk showed my videos to Arianna Huffington at Davos, and Arianna Huffington loved the videos. And she asked one of our team members, two people, Danny Shea, and Dan Katz, who had two good friends now, she asked him to call me up. And they ended up coming to London to see me. And they said, well, we're going to share your videos on the Huffpost page and see how they do. And so there was no contract, there was no money involved. It was just an opportunity for more people to see my work. And those four videos, I think collectively over time ended up doing over 100 million views. And, you know, that was the beginning of where everything really changed. And so Arianna Huffington invited me out to New York, I became a senior host and producer at New York, in New York. And after that, you know, my journey really took off. So that's kind of how. My tips on personal branding though, I know you asked that. Specifically, I wanted to give some context. The first tip I have is, you should play the role that you have a skill in. Some people are great writers, some people are great speakers. Some people are great straight in front of camera vlogging. The point is to find your unique role. Some people are great actors on screen. You don't have to be the face, you can be behind the scenes, you can be a producer, you can be a director, you can be a writer. If you're building a personal brand, I think the pressure is you have to be the face. But the truth is you can be an incredible writer and director. And you never have to be the face. But you can have an incredible personal brand. Just think of people like Martin Scorsese, or Steven Spielberg, people who are rarely in front of the camera, but we all know who they are, and we know their names. And so that would be one tip. The second tip I'd have to say is make sure that whatever you create, make someone feel something. There was an incredible article in The New York Times about content that goes the most viral, and out of 7,000 pieces of viral content, they found that there were only five things that went viral. They were adventure, comedy, emotion, inspiration, and surprise. Notice how none of those are industries or verticals or themes. They have feelings: you feel a sense of adventure, you feel humor, you feel an emotion, you feel inspired or you feel surprised. If you're building a personal brand, your content and your work has to make someone feel something. If you're not making someone feel something, then chances are that you don't really have a brand. When you look at a brand name you trust, you feel something. You may look at your favorite restaurant's brand name and feel a sense of security and comfort, you may look at a brand that you follow for athletic wear, and feel a sense of pride or feel a sense of confidence. We connect with things that make us feel something. And then the third and final thing I'd say with personal branding is you want to really, really make sure that you've thought about your values and your intentions because your personal brand truly has to be personal. And so if you're not clear about your values and your intentions, it's very hard for people to feel that.

Adam: Jay, you shared so much wisdom there. And I want to highlight a few of the things you mentioned. For listeners, first and foremost, whatever your message is, get it out there. Don't hold back. In your case, now you're a household name. But when you're getting started, the only people who knew you are your friends and family and you've got to start somewhere. It's never too early or too late to get on that journey. Whatever your journey is. One of my early guests on 30 Minute Mentors, Victor Rojas, who was the play-by-play announcer for the Angels, my favorite baseball team, shared some incredible wisdom. He shared lots of great wisdom throughout the podcast, but one thing that stood out was when he said, you have to be the best version of yourself, not the second-best version of someone else. And the context of that advice was when in his career, he realized that he was trying too hard to be the second-best version of his mentor, a Hall of Fame broadcaster. And when he realized that he was never going to be great by trying to be the second-best version of Eric Nadel, he had the freedom to be the best Victor Rojas, which allowed him to be such a successful broadcaster. I love the advice you shared around inspiring audiences to feel something and it starts by being yourself, being authentic, being who you are, if you are who you are, people will appreciate that. People will enjoy that. Jay, so much of your content, really centers around motivating people. And I wanted to ask you, what are your best tips on the topic of motivation and how do you motivate yourself on the days that you don't feel motivated?

Jay: Yeah, and I think that's the definition. Thank you for your reflections. By the way, I really, really love those reflections. And, you know, I'm sure that they're going to resonate with everyone who's listening. Motivation, that is exactly the definition of motivation. It’s exactly what you said. It's doing things, even when you don't feel like doing them. And I think we have this misconception that people who love what they do always feel like doing everything that they do. So we think that if someone loves what they do, that must mean they wake up every day, and they're just always happy. And they're always inspired and always motivated. And that's just not true. There are countless days when I wake up, and I don't want to do anything, or I look at my schedule. And I think, wow, that's a lot of work to do today. Or, you know, maybe I don't feel like doing this today. And to me the way I find motivation, the first thing really, truly is looking at my intention and reason and why I'm doing any of this in the first place, I find that my motivation weakens when my meaning is weak. When I'm not understanding the meaning of why I'm doing what I'm doing, that's when the motivation starts to dwindle and starts to weaken. So I regularly remind myself of why I'm doing this. And you have to regularly not remind yourself but you regularly have to experience why you're doing what you're doing. So if you are a, for example, like with what I do, if I don't read the comments, if I bump into people who listen to my work, if I don't have conversations with people, sometimes I'll go live on Instagram, and I'll invite a random audience member up to just listen to them to hear about how they've connected to my book or my podcast or any of the work I do. Being able to experience what you do and the impact you have and feedback is such a powerful way to stay motivated. One of my favorite things to do to stay motivated is energy management, as opposed to using time management. So one of the articles I read a few years ago that changed the way I worked said that you can't be logical and creative at the same time. So a lot of us go from logical meetings, to creative meetings, every 30 minutes to go from a numbers, meeting my data, to go into a brainstorm meeting, to go to a marketing meeting, to go back to a business meeting, that's draining your energy because your mind, your brain, your energy doesn't get to be in one place, it doesn't get to be absorbed, it doesn't get to be focused. So I started to create my schedule to be broken up in two days. So Monday would be a creative day. Tuesday will be a business day. Wednesday and Thursday will be creative days, and Friday will be a business day. I've started to orchestrate and create a new schedule, which allows me to be motivated and keep my energy high. And rather than just focusing on how much time I spend on things, I think about how I can bring my best energy. So today, I had an interview with you. And I thought to myself, well, if I want to give my best energy in the interview, and I want to be motivated, I need to be well-rested the night before, I need to have a morning that is not too focused on me speaking or sharing, because I then may be tired or may not be feeling as inspired. And so you're now thinking about what's the priority in the day. And you're now creating an ecosystem around that priority rather than just expecting yourself to always be at your best energy. And the last and final way that I'd say I mean, there's lots of ways. But the last and final one I'll mention today about staying motivated, is you have to take your own advice. You have to take your own medicine, you have to listen to what you're telling others to do. You have to do it yourself because when you get confidence in what you're sharing, giving, serving, that gives you more motivation than anything in the world.

Adam: I love that, Jay, I love it. Two topics that you focus on in your book are reducing stress and improving focus. You just shared a little bit of advice around improving focus. And you recently launched a lifestyle tea brand called Sama. And one of the things that I love about your new brand is that the two flavors are calm and relaxed and focus and clarity. And focus and clarity is a mint blueberry tea, and mint and blueberry are two of my favorite things. I love innovation. I love the creativity. I didn't even know mint and blueberry could go together. I've never thought of that before. So firstly, any advice around innovation, creativity, not only how you came up with the tea flavors, but how listeners can best tap into their most innovative selves. And then secondly, any advice you have on the topics of reducing stress and improving focus.

Jay: Absolutely, thank you so much for sharing that. I love your enthusiasm for tea. And I'm so glad- I can't wait to send you some and I can't wait for you to try some. You know, we wanted to share it with people. It's partly why we created it. But when it came to innovation, I think it was that my wife and I spent a lot of time in the last, obviously, 18 months, 12 to 18 months that we've all been indoors, drinking tea. It's been our drink of choice ever since we've been together. It's been my drink of choice previously and her family's drink of choice too. So we have a long history with tea. I remember that. You know, for me, my parents were immigrants to England. And they were both working. They both had to work jobs. And I would be at daycare and my mom would come to pick me up from daycare every night and she would take me home and they didn't have a lot of time for me. She'd come home and she'd have to cook, you'd have to clean the house. She'd had to help us with my homework, whatever else that you know, my mom was Superwoman. She is super, she's incredible. And I got to see an incredibly powerful mother teach me the value of hard work, teach me the value of organization, sacrifice, you know, she took on a job to be self-employed so that she could pick me up from school, drop me to school, pick my sister up, drop her off, cook for us, take care of the home, she truly incredible. But one of the things I remembered, and it's amazing how we hold on to these- at the time, they seem very insignificant, but they're so grounding for us as we get older. I remember that when we got home she picked me up from daycare and we'd get back to our home. She'd always give me a cup of tea. And usually it would be like chamomile or something like that, whatever, little cup of tea together. We'd also do it on Saturday and Sunday mornings where we'd have Indian Chai. And I remember those mornings where I’d get to have some Indian Chai, and it would be one of my favorite things. And we used to get these Indian biscuits out and dip them in as well. And it'd be something I would look forward to because I was only allowed that tea on the weekend. And I started to realize that I equate tea with presence. I equate it with my mum's love, I equate it with connection, I equate it with surprise and delight and just feeling a sense of warmth. And that was something that I wanted to help people experience. And I've always tried to help people experience it through my videos and my podcast and my book. But I realized that as much as that can help you feel warm, and it does, and I will continue to do it. And it's obviously a foundation of my life. I also wanted people to actually physically tangibly feel warm inside, I wanted them to feel- so when you talk about innovation, innovation, to me, comes through, first of all, looking at something you do every day, and thinking if it can be done better. So meaning rather, we're drinking tea every day. And we could just like it- and I have to give Radhi the credit for the flavors. So when you talk about mint and blueberry being good together, Adam, I can't take any credit for that. That's completely my wife. She is the potion monster and the food guru of Sama. And she knows how to blend teas. And she knows how to blend flavors. She's a you know, she has a background in nutrition and is a dietitian. So I know that it tastes good, but she knew that it would work well. So all the credit goes to the item. But the innovation started with us both drinking teas and feeling like we wanted the scent to commerce. We wanted the flavor to bring a sense of warmth and stillness. We wanted the color to feel like a beautiful, comforting sensation. These were all conversations we were having. So it came from something we did every day. Innovation also came from me thinking about my experience with my mother and the feeling I felt when we had tea together in Radhi’s house. Every meal they finish, the first question they ask is, hey, what tea do you want? After every meal in Radhi house, they'll drink tea together. So when you're trying to innovate so much, if it's actually closer to home- I think of innovation as like solving a big world problem or solving something out there. And that's great. Like that is innovation. Of course, that's innovation. But for a lot of us innovation can also start right at home right with what we do on a daily basis. And then, when we discovered that, you know, tea had been such a stronghold in our lives. We also wanted something that would add to everyone's daily routine, we both believe in routine. And we believe that routines are hard to create. And even harder is making time for something. So whenever I tell someone like, hey, you need to make time to meditate- but I don't have any time. And if I say oh, when do you need to make time to journal and people be like, well, gee, I don't have any time. And so I thought, how can we create something where it's not about time, but it's about what energy and feeling it creates. And I found we both believe that tea does the job of helping you feel calm by the taste and the flavor. It helps you inhale and reminds you to breathe. The color helps you get a piece of mindfulness and presence, and to tea and drinking tea. And as a monk I drank a lot of tea. Tea in and of itself is such a mindful habit and practice. And so that's where the innovation came from was understanding how we can- and digitally, from an analog point of view- help people have a mindful, present, experience every day. And when you talk about relieving stress and pressure, all of our stress comes from these things. One thing is not being where we are. If you're not where your feet are, you will be stressed or anxious because it means your mind is in the future or the present. So to make our mind more present, we need to engage our senses. Our senses, if you think about it, when you're lost in the past to the future, mentally, your senses are practically non-existent. Right? If you're in your head, it means your senses are switched off. But when I walked in to have my cup of Sama this morning, the moment I walked into the kitchen and Radhi had already brewed it and was seated, I walked in I could smell it and I just was like oh, thank you so much like I can smell that. I already feel relaxed. So becoming present. Another reason why we experienced stress is because we're just moving so fast. Our lives are so hectic. And by the way, that's my life too. I'm not a monk anymore. I'm an entrepreneur, I'm married, I have teams, I have a podcast to record. And I'm looking at my schedule right now. And, you know, my day today started at 7:30 am workwise. And it won't finish till 6:30 pm today. And if someone tells me to find time, I can't. But if someone told me to just have a bit of tea time, to take a moment, seven to 10 minutes, to steep some tea and take some time to slow down, it makes you feel still. And the last thing I think is a moment of exchange, sharing a human moment with someone and you know, my wife and I, Radhi, have a breakfast together or dinner together because we both have busy lives. But we can find the time to have tea together in the morning and evening. And that's become a ritual for us. So we just found that tea was such a great way to do that. And for me, my practices of meditation and gratitude and everything else that I do has truly been enhanced by this moment of presence that we're getting to do.

Adam: Jay, we could spend the next 30 minutes just talking about mint and blueberry and how they go together. But to highlight a couple of points you shared, entrepreneurs are continually iterating. And it doesn't matter what business you're in, you could be creating new tea flavors. Or you could be creating new lines of office furniture. Your best ideas don't necessarily come from that a-ha moment. They come from lots of hard work, sitting around bouncing ideas off of each other. And then all of a sudden, that great idea emerges. The importance of taking a step back, and taking a deep breath- that is so important, regardless of what line of work you're in. We talked about baseball a little bit earlier on, and about one of the most successful pitchers on the Angels this year, we spoke a little bit about the Angels- I know that baseball's probably not a big topic in your home country- has improved his performance dramatically, simply by stepping off the mound and taking a deep breath before every pitch. And number three, human connectivity. It’s important not to forget, especially in times like these, just how powerful it is to connect with those around us. And, Jay, before we go, I want to ask you one last question; you shared a lot of great advice around the topic of mental health. How can anyone listening to this podcast, optimize their mental health and develop a winning mindset?

Jay: That's a great question to end on. And the best way to do it is to have a plan for it. If you don't have a plan for your mental health, it means you're treating it reactively. It's the same as a plan for your physical health. You know that once a year, hopefully, you go and get checked by the doctor to just make sure you're getting blood tests, getting vitamin tests, micronutrients tests. If you're not, I highly recommend it. Physically, I highly recommend that you go and get tests on all your vitamins, all your micronutrients, your physical health. In the same way we need to get mental health checks, whether that's making sure that you're taking time to speak to a therapist if that's something that works for you. Maybe it's you speaking to your coach, maybe it's getting a brain scan, maybe for you, it's making sure that you take a day off every month to really rest and retreat. You have to have a plan. If we're making a plan, that means we're taking our mental health seriously. That's one thing. The second way you can take your mental health seriously is to have conversations about it and to be honest about how you feel, just as you would say like oh, you know, I'm just feeling a bit of pain in my back this morning or my neck and I think I must have slept funny- you would have that conversation. But sometimes to say to someone, hey, you know what, I've just been feeling more stressed than usual, that feels like a weakness. It feels like something difficult to say or saying something you don't want to do. I think I might need to cancel my morning because I just don't think I can do it. I'm feeling that fogginess in my brain- that feels like a weakness. We struggle to articulate it, and we struggle to take it seriously. Whereas if you hurt your leg or you're playing sports or you had an accident, you would, you know, use those crutches or whatever you need to get through the day. So the second thing is being able to articulate it honestly to yourself and to articulate it to the people around you that know you, love you, and care about you so that you can actually be vigilant and aware, and they can be vigilant and aware as well. And the third thing is to take on habits and practices that help your mental health. I do believe that a lot of us are taking risks with our mental health based on some simple practices. And this is a formula that I share in my book, Think Like a Monk, but I'd like to repeat it here because it's really simple in that five practices and they spell out the word times- T-I-M-E-S. T stands for thankfulness, taking a moment to be grateful to someone every day. By the way, it takes no effort, it costs no money, and it takes 30 seconds. So what I mean by that is taking a moment to be specifically grateful to someone, it could be a text message or voice message, an email to someone personally or professionally. I promise you sharing gratitude and thankfulness every day is going to lead to deeper bonds and connections. The I is for being inspired. We talked about being motivated. So I'm going to leave that in the podcast. M is for meditation, we spoke a bit about that as well. The E is for exercise, a lot of us are not moving and not moving is affecting our mental health. Even if it's putting on your favorite wearable- I wear the aura ring, I love wearing it. It measures my steps and measures my heart rate. I know so many families that are wearing them now where the kids are competing with their parents in how many steps they've taken a day. If you're creating a 10,000 step competition in your family and in your life, I guarantee you will be going on more walks, you'll be spending more time together and you'll have something to bond over. Exercise can be fun, it can be fruitful, it can be exciting. And finally; sleep. I think too many of us are sacrificing sleep. These are cheap, free, easy ways to change our life by sleeping before midnight every day. We're improving the quality of our sleep. By sleeping after midnight, we're taking away so much because the HGH, the human growth hormone, is most powerful and impactful between the hours before midnight. So these simple, practical, easy ways of improving the quality of our sleep can transform our mental health. Don't underestimate it, don't think you have to spend money or you have to try something huge or make a big life change to improve your mental health.

Adam: Thank you for all the great advice and thank you for being a part of Thirty Minute Mentors.

Jay: Thank you so much for having me, Adam. I'm so grateful and I really hope this helps a lot of people.


Adam Mendler is the CEO of The Veloz Group, where he co-founded and oversees ventures across a wide variety of industries. Adam is also the creator and host of the business and leadership podcast Thirty Minute Mentors, where he goes one on one with America's most successful people - Fortune 500 CEOs, founders of household name companies, Hall of Fame and Olympic gold medal winning athletes, political and military leaders - for intimate half-hour conversations each week. Adam has written extensively on leadership, management, entrepreneurship, marketing and sales, having authored over 70 articles published in major media outlets including Forbes, Inc. and HuffPost, and has conducted more than 500 one on one interviews with America’s top leaders through his collective media projects. A top leadership speaker, Adam draws upon his insights building and leading businesses and interviewing hundreds of America's top leaders as a top keynote speaker to businesses, universities and non-profit organizations.

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