Speak and Seek to Understand: Interview with Shane Evans, Co-Founder and CEO of Massage Height
Several years ago, I interviewed Shane Evans, co-founder and CEO of Massage Height, in an interview originally published in Thrive Global. Here is an excerpt from our conversation:
Adam: Thanks again for taking the time to share your thoughts on leadership. First things first, though, I am sure readers would love to learn more about you. What is something about you that would surprise people?
Shane: Very few people know this about me, but my dream job — other than the one I have — is to be a broadcast journalist.
Adam: How did you get here? What failures, setbacks, or challenges have been most instrumental to your growth?
Shane: We got to where we are today by having so many committed and loyal people on our team. Once the idea sparked to create Massage Heights, and my husband was on board, our family members quickly followed and offered their full support, not just personally, but in the business as well.
In the beginning stages as a startup company, we didn’t have the capital we needed to hire people that were qualified and deserving of higher salaries. We brought on employees and asked them to take on larger roles within the company before we could properly compensate them, but luckily we found people who believed in the vision and leadership of our team, who inevitably chose to stay on board and grow as we did. These core employees did whatever they needed to be successful which was critical to the growth we experienced in the first few years.
Knowing the founders’ strengths and weaknesses, inclusive of my own, heavily influenced our ability to determine who we needed to hire, but at first we experienced challenges involved with building the infrastructure of our leadership team. We also struggled with how to ensure that the right people were in the right seats and that we had the capital needed to attract and retain not just talent, but people whose values aligned with ours.
Additionally, once we started franchising, we learned quickly that while we were eager to grow, we had to be smart about it and bring the right franchisees on board, rather than anyone who could write a check. Having built Massage Heights from the ground up, my family and I are incredibly proud — and protective — of the brand. Not only do our franchisees need to have the right experience, they need to be aligned with our mission, vision, and culture.
By taking every setback we experienced and using it as an opportunity to learn has helped Massage Heights grow to more than [100] locations across North America — with many new franchised locations in the pipeline for the coming year.
Adam: In your experience, what are the defining qualities of an effective leader? How can leaders and aspiring leaders take their leadership skills to the next level?
Shane: In my experience the number one defining quality of an effective leader is simple: the ability to understand people. By empathizing for and with those you surround yourself with, you build a level of trust where they are empowered to produce quality work and share ideas. As an employer, I’ve made it a priority to understand the dreams and aspirations of my employees and work toward positively impacting both their work and personal lives.
It’s also important to be self-aware and hold yourself accountable not only to hit goals and get the job done but also to take ownership of the things that go wrong. If your team is not succeeding, those in leadership roles need to reevaluate how they are holding their employees accountable and assess their overall leadership strategy. If the leader is focused on the right things, the overall success of the company will prosper. If you’re having trouble, don’t be afraid to hire a coach that can identify the strengths and weaknesses of your team to help navigate to a more successful route.
Adam: What are your three best tips applicable to entrepreneurs, executives, and civic leaders?
Shane:
1. Speak and seek to understand. Seek out mentors and ask a lot of questions.
2. Hire colleagues and employees who align with your values.
3. Make every decision based on the values that you have created for yourself, your team, and your company.
Adam: How can anyone pay it forward?
Shane: Become a mentor. Make it a priority to give someone else your time, talent, or treasure. In a startup company, you may not always be in the position to give financially, but there is always someone who can learn from your guidance and experiences. When you mentor someone it helps develop you as a leader. You may even learn a thing or two from your mentee, as well.
Adam: What is the single best piece of advice you have ever received?
Shane: “To follow through on commitment, big or small.” – my dad.
Adam: Is there anything else you would like to share?
Shane: Leaders need to be diligent and have a plan. While seeing a plan through, it’s also important to be flexible if you need to improvise and pivot. Nothing ever goes 100 percent as planned. As an entrepreneur, you’re always chasing the shiny object, but in order to reach it you need to put a plan in place and stick to it, while keeping in mind the importance of staying flexible.
Adam Mendler is an entrepreneur, writer, speaker, educator, and nationally recognized authority on leadership. Adam is the creator and host of the business and leadership podcast Thirty Minute Mentors, where he goes one-on-one with America's most successful people - Fortune 500 CEOs, founders of household name companies, Hall of Fame and Olympic gold medal-winning athletes, political and military leaders - for intimate half-hour conversations each week. A top leadership speaker, Adam draws upon his insights building and leading businesses and interviewing hundreds of America's top leaders as a top keynote speaker to businesses, universities, and non-profit organizations. Adam has written extensively on leadership and related topics, having authored over 70 articles published in major media outlets including Forbes, Inc. and HuffPost, and has conducted more than 500 one on one interviews with America’s top leaders through his collective media projects. Adam teaches graduate-level courses on leadership at UCLA and is an advisor to numerous companies and leaders. A Los Angeles native, Adam is a lifelong Angels fan and an avid backgammon player.
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